For anyone interested in the new Yamaha Keyboard here is a little something.

https://www.yamaha.com/genos/


Brian007

Brian,

That has the most amazing sound. And playing 'in amongst the stars' is probably the only way I would manage to get something meaningful out of an amazing keyboard like this. Perhaps at the next release we will see whether or not it has 'piano keys' or whether you play on circuit boards.

Please keep us up to date as things progress.

Hugh

Hi Hugh,

There's no doubt about it, Yamaha are among the leaders in the field of Technology especially with keyboards
so it will be interesting to actually see a real picture of it and just exactly what its true capabilities are.

I am still learning the true capabilities of what the Tyros 5 can do, so it will be interesting to see just
what Yamaha think we need now ?

Brian007

A quick update,

Dont know how much of this is true but this is supposed to part of the spec for the new Keyboard

New file formats...

For both song and styles...

The new 16 track song player/recorder will support both midi as well as audio tracks
You can even bounce a midi track to audio (and keep the midi track in the format if you want to step back)
However the midi track will not play anymore, it will be semi/hidden
You can also overdub audio tracks..

Also there will be a new sequencer format for the pattern sequencer inherited from the Motif
Although, also this new pattern sequencer will support audio loops
You can directly record the pattern sequencer into the normal song recorder..
But also copy to style tracks

There is also a new style format supporting both midi as well as audio..
but the arranger also plays the old styles..
The new style player is much more dynamic
Reacting to the player..

Also there will be a Chord track, and a chord loop...
The chord track plays overall and couples arranger parts to the sequencer
So your arranger follows the sequencer
A chord loop is coupled to a variation...


Also the touchscreen adds a huge amount of direct controll options for styles...
Much like we have seen Ketron do


And last but not least, something i guessed right before..
The 4 keyboard parts will consist out of 4 awm2 parts (and each part is 8 elements)
Combined with up to 3 split points
So the ensemble voices will just be 1 part
As well as the 4 awm part piano from the montage

Different from the montage, each sound will have 1 effect (montage =2)
But the 4 keyboard parts will have 4 additional effects which can be assigned to a single up to 4 parts
Drum parts will have 8 effects.. but only 2 midi drum tracks can be played live .. at the same time
Drums support round


way to much for me to handle


Brian007

Hi All,



Just watched the 2nd advert for the new Yamaha Keyboard and just completely failed to see the relevance of this advert in the launch of a new Keyboard ?

Brian007

Brian. When actually watching this on YouTube it's interesting to read some of the comments ...

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If all these orchestral voices are also sampled in Genos, it will be simply an Ultra Beast! Can't wait 

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I would really like to know what the Yamaha Genos really did, here. It 's a very very confusing situation for future Genos buyers...
It's very easy to request a big orchestra to play, and then tell you that a keyboard participates to this ....
Misleading advertising ????
Otherwise, the overall result is very good. Bravo Alex Christensen, bravo the orchestra.
No bravo for Yamaha.

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I too find this product plug very disturbing. That has nothing to do with a workstation advertisement. Got me nowhere.

Hi Hugh,

My own personal perception is, it could be such a big move forward from the Tyros format of an arranger keyboard
that it may just put a few people off, but until we get the full spec and a little more info it's all smoke and mirrors at the moment

Apparently there a big release party for main dealers in Germany today I think

Brian007

More Specs on Yamahas new keyboard


Product Name: Digital Keyboard (Yamaha Genos)

Dimensions (W x D x H): 1234 mm x 456 mm x 138 mm

Weight: 13.0 kg

Keyboard: 76 Tasten (FSX) Initial Touch/Aftertouch

Controllers: Joystick, 6 Knobs, 9 Crossfader, Art.1, Art.2, Art.3

Display: TFT Colour Wide VGA LCD (800 x 400 dots / 9 inch) Touch Screen

Sub Display: OLED (Live Control View / 589 x 48 dots)

Tone Generation: AWM Stereo Sampling, AEM Technology

Polpyhonie: 256 (max.)

Number of Voices (Presets): 1.652 Voices + 58 Drum/SFX Kits

Featured Voices: 10 Revo Drums/SFX, 76 Ensemble, 390 Super Articulation, 75 Super Articulation2, 82 MegaVoices, 40Sweet, 81 Cool, 160 Live, 24 Organ Flutes.

Number of Styles: 550 (491 Pro, 39 Session, 10 Free Play, 10 DJ)

Expansion Voice: Yes (max. 1.8 GByte Onboard)

Storage: Internal Memory (58 GByte) / External USB Flash Drive

Microphone: Yes (Combo Jack) +48 Phantom Power




Brian007

Well the Teasers have done their job and got people talking about Genos. The last teaser will probably reveal all. I do suspect that a lot of the voices we have heard have been sampled from the orchestra and also the style. This is going to be one great keyboard and should suit all.

See my comment here:

viewtopic.php?f=152&t=5623#p36990

Hugh

For those of you interested here the latest video relating to the new Genos




Brian007

We seem to have heard a lot of samples from orchestras. André Rieu, the Berlin Orchestra. The last thing I want to hear from a keyboard or organ is a 'live orchestra'. It's those songs from the 50s and 60s that I like to play. They had guitars and bass guitars in their bands, and not a single violin to be seen. And then there's the organ sounds. Hammond organ variations .. and not a single violin to be seen. And then I like the 'weirdy' sounds with a bit of wha-wha on them. And not a single violin to be seen.

We'll see what else they come up with.

Hi Hugh,

If the Genos is anything like the previous Tyros keyboards each new one had a section called Legacy which contains all the previous voices from the previous models.
The Tyros models already have some great voices from the categories you mentioned but you're right all the stuff that's been released about the new Genos is geared
toward orchestras ? perhaps it's the advertising gurus way of tying to say how realistic the voices are compared to the real thing and just what can be achieved.
Until we get a few more details and realistic live demos done by their demonstrators we are still in the dark really

Brian007

Hi Brian have a look on you tube uploaded last night Bill.

Is this the real thing?

Hi Hugh,

Could well be , I honestly dont know ? but there has been a lot of images very similar to that floating around the internet
only time will tell, it will be nice when they are in the dealers so you can go and have a look at the real thing.

Bria007

Hi Brian and Hugh you would think if it was the real thing they would put the power on so we all would see the screen. Just a thought. Bill

Hi Bill,

You make a valid point there ? best wait and see

Brian007

Apparently someone in Brussels has ordered a Genos and the price was 4,500 Euros
which equates to just under £4,000 pounds . This is not fact but like everything else at the moment, speculation

So get those piggy banks out

Brian007

Here in the UK the price depends on if you have the speakers and stand. If you just have the Keyboard and speakers it is around £4600 but shops are giving good PX deals at the moment. It pays to shop around.